Showing posts with label star wars. Show all posts
Showing posts with label star wars. Show all posts

Monday, 12 January 2015

The Price of Being (playing) Batman!


Recently I have seen a few people mention the price of the Batman minis from Knight Models and say that the Batman Minis game is too expensive.
To be honest, I thought the same when I looked at it to begin with. I thought £12 a model was a bit steep. Until I looked into it further anyway.

The things to remember with this range is that is 35mm instead of the usual 28-30mm. The models are high detailed metal instead of sprue plastic and it's a licensed product. Licensed items always cost a little more anyway.

With this in mind I thought it may be a good idea to do a price comparison with Batman vs 3 of the top games on the market. X-Wing, Warmachine and Warhammer 40K.
I know all of these games are quite different. The game size, model scale, material used and such but as they are the most popular games our there is shows people are willing to pay the prices to play them.

This sort of thing can be a bit of a minefield though. Each game has several different forces, model sizes, army builds and more. You can do elites or swarms and this all varies the price to play.
For this article I'm going to pick the most popular force in each game, pick a starter force and expand it to a standard sized game.
I will also take into account any rulebooks, specialised templates and dice you may need to get started.
There are several expansions and optional extras out there but this is just what's needed. Tokens, scenery and tape measures are something most people will have already as well.

As it's comparing Batman to other games, I'm going to make two Batman forces. One of just characters and one swarm of thugs with a big character added. This should show the cheapest and most expensive options.

Prices will ALL be taken from Wayland Games as they are a large well known retailer that stocks all ranges. To make things a little easier, prices are rounded to the closest £.


First up is the Bat Family. A starter game for Batman is around 200 Rep and a standard is 350 Rep.
I know there is the new rulebook soon, but there is still a free download rules set so I count it as an optional extra.

Rulebook - Free download
Tokens / Templates - In Rulebook
Batman (Arkham) - 130 Rep - £12
Robin (Arkham) - 68 Rep - £12

Starter game - 198 Rep - Total £24

Batwoman - 95 Rep - £12
Robin (Damien Wayne) - 50 Rep

Standard Game - 342 Rep - Total £48


The other end of the scale for Batman would be a Joker Swarm with a big model for muscle.

Rulebook - Free
Templates / Token - In rulebook
Joker Starter (Joker + 3 Clowns) - 158 Rep - £25
Clowns pack 2 - 41 Rep - £12

Starter game - 199 Rep - Total £37

Clowns pack 1 - 51 Rep - £12
Killer Croc - 95 Rep - £16

Standard game - 345 Rep - Total £65



X-Wing is probably to closest of the top 3 to Batman. It's a small model count licensed game.
For this I'm going for a Rebel force. Starter size of around 40 points and standard size of 100 points.

Starter Set - £24
Rulebook, Tokens, Templates - In Starter
X-Wing - 21 pts - In Starter
X-Wing - 21 pts - £11

Starter Game - 42 pts - Total £35

Millennium Falcon - 27 pts - £23
B-Wing - 22 pts - £11

Standard game - 91 pts - Total £69



The next game up is Warmachine. A normal starter set game is around 11 points and a standard sized game is 35 points. For this list I'm going for the boys in blue, Cygnar.

Rulebook - £18
Templates - £16
Cygnar Starter set - 11 pts - £32
(Stryker, Ironclad, Lancer, Charger)

Starter game - 11 pts - Total £56

Hammersmith - 8 pts - £23
Hunter - 6 pts - £9
Trenchers x 10 - 10 pts - £33

Standard game - 35 pts - £121



For the final game, its the most popular tabletop game in the world. Warhammer 40K. Again, it's the boys in blue, the Ultramarines. Or just standard Marines.
For a starter game I'm going for the basic 1 HQ and 2 Troops at 400 points. For a standard game, the smallest you will probably find is about 1000 points.

Rulebook - £42
SM Codex - £30
Templates - £8
SM Captain - 100 pts - £15
Tactical Squad 10x2 - 300 pts - £40

Starter game - 400 pts - £135

Terminators x5 - 200 pts - £22
Land Raider - 250 pts - £36
Devastators x5 - 150 pts - £16

Standard game - 1000 pts - £209


OK, that was a lot of numbers. Again, all prices come from Wayland Games. I'm sure they could be found cheaper or more expensive on other site or in stores.
Like I have said, I know these are all different games with different scales, sizes, materials and army builds but I have just gone for a very general force for each. The sort of thing a new player would walk into a store and buy. This gives an average cost on startng and playing each of these top / most popular games.

As a quick recap -
Batman - £24 / £48
Joker - £37 / £65
X-Wing - £35 / £69
Warmachine - £56 / £121
WK 40K - £135 / £209

This puts the price of playing Batman vs -
X-wing - About the same.
Warmachine - Just over half
WH 40K - Around a quarter

We all know that our hobby isn't one of the cheapest out there, but if you are looking at Batman, it's probably going to cost the same or less than other games you play.
As with any game though, it doesn't stop after the first few models does it?

Well, that's about it really. The numbers are there and I can't argue with them. I wont say one game is better than another either. It's all down to personal taste.

Did this work out how you expected?
Were you surprised or shocked by any of it?
Let us know below.

EDIT - Some people have asked why I haven't compared Batman to Pulp City, Infinity and Mailfaux.
The new edition of Pulp City doesnt come out until next month and I have no idea what the prices will be yet.
As for Infinity and Malifux, I would love to add them here but at the moment I just don't know enough about the games to make informed lists and comparisons.

- Hendybadger

Tuesday, 18 June 2013

X-Wing Wave 3!


Fantasy Flight Games have shown the 3rd wave of ships for the X-Wing miniatures game.
Not much is known about what they do yet apart from what is in the pictures and to be honest I don't know a huge amount about Star Wars, I just really like the game, so I will leave you the little bit about each ship that is posted on the FFG site.


HWK-290 Expansion Pack


Designed by Corellian Engineering Corporation to resemble a bird in flight, the “hawk” series excels in its role as a personal transport. The HWK-290 Expansion Pack comes with one detailed miniature at 1/270 scale, a manoeuvre dial, all necessary tokens, six upgrades, and four pilots, including the renowned Kyle Katarn. Each HWK-290 provides a wide range of support options for your squad and can be outfitted with both a turret weapon and crew member.

B-Wing Expansion Pack


Bring the B-wing to your games of X-Wing with the B-Wing Expansion Pack. The B-wing’s heavy weapons array and resilient shielding quickly solidified it as the Alliance’s most formidable assault fighter. Accordingly, the B-Wing Expansion Pack packs a mighty punch! The B-wing can wield as many as two torpedoes, as well as a cannon, and it can be equipped with a system upgrade for precision targeting. The B-Wing Expansion Pack contains a stunning miniature at 1/270 scale, a manoeuvre dial, all necessary tokens, four ship cards, and a devastating arsenal of five upgrade cards.

Lambda-class Shuttle Expansion Pack


Noted for its tri-wing design, the Lambda-class shuttle served a critical role as a light utility craft in the Imperial Navy. Now you can use this utilitarian ship to strengthen your Imperial squad for X-Wing! The Lambda–class Shuttle Expansion Pack includes one large-base Lambda-class shuttle miniature at 1/270 scale, its manoeuvre dial, all necessary tokens, four ship cards, and a whopping twelve upgrades, which afford Imperial players an astonishing level of customisation and control of their squads.

TIE Bomber Expansion Pack

While not as agile or fast as other TIE variants, the TIE bomber is capable of delivering an astonishing payload, and the TIE Bomber Expansion Pack carries enough firepower to destroy virtually any enemy target. Each TIE bomber is capable of carrying two torpedoes, two missiles, and one bomb. Accordingly, the expansion’s five upgrade cards present you with a wide array of armaments, including the punishing Proton Bombs. You’ll also find a striking miniature, a manoeuvre dial, all necessary tokens, and four talented new pilots.

You can see more about the cards included in these packs in the X-Wing News (link) section of the Fantasy Flight website.

I know I will be picking up at least 2 each of the TIE Bombers and Lambda shuttle. What about you?

Hendybadger awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Friday, 7 June 2013

Darth Badger is Victorious at the X-Wing South West Regional!!!!!!


Last Saturday I entered the X-Wing South West regional event at Clifton Road Games in Exeter.
I have only been playing the game for about 3 weeks but have been really enjoying it so thought it could be a fun day out.
The local club leader Tom (Chew-ginga) joined me and we headed of to go PEW PEW for the day.

The plan was to do a full report on the event, who I played, what they used and such. But, I got caught up playing games, laughing, chatting and having a great day I totally forgot that plan.  I did get a shot of the standings after round 2 though which listed everyone that played!

My list for the day was a TIE Fighter swarm.  I had run a similar list the week before with good results and lander the single Fighter expansion on ebay a couple of day before the event. This gave me the pilots I was after to make a decent looking force of 100pts.

Howlrunner + Stealth Device
Backstabber
Dark Curse
Mauler Mithel
Night Beast
Black Squadron Pilot - Draw Their Fire

How had I managed with this list in the past? Well, I hadn't used it before. Round 1 was the first game with it.


To my surprise I was in the final 4 cut after the first 4 rounds. In each game I had only only lost 2 Fighters and won with a clear 100pts of the opponents force destroyed.
The semi was a lot closer. 3 Fighters down vs a Firespray and 2 Interceptors.
Everyone had a single damage point left and lucky dice won me that one with 2 Fighters remaining.


The final was against another player that had only had a few games before this event.  A Falcon list flew towards me and the dice were in my favour again.


At the end of the day, Darth Badger had won the 4 round swiss and the 4 person cut. Finished the day with and awesome trophy, plastic focus, rebel patch, token bag and an invite to the World Champs in America in November!






Sooooooo pleased!
Had a great day and would like to say massive thank you to Steve at Clifton Road Games for running the event, all the players that attended and Chew-ginga for giving me a new Interceptor for taking him!

Will I be off to America? I don't know yet.

Hendybadger awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!


Friday, 29 June 2012

2 More 'Big 100,000' Giveaway Additions from Knight Models






The amazing guys at Knight Models have donated 2 stunning prizes for the Big 100,000 Giveaway (Link)
70mm versions of the Dark Knight Joker and Gandalf the Grey.
They also have a huge range of 30-70mm Marvel, DC, Star Wars and LotR. You NEED to check out thier site.
These are some of the most amazingly detailed sculpts I have ever seen.
All you need to do to try and win them is follow this blog and leave a comment on the giveaway >>HERE<<

Thats a whole load of mega prizes now. And I fairly sure more are going to be added in the next couple of days.

Hendyabadger awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

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